We set up base camp and split up. There are some good honey holes in this unit that will hold nice goats. Colorado State Outfitter License #2975. Go. The area is high elevation and goats of any size are usually found in the basins you have to work to get into. Type High altitude, rolling alpine with some rougher rim rock country at lower elevations. Draw Like G2, there has been a reduction in tags down to 4 instead of the historical 6. G2, G13, and G12 are all easier to draw and better hunts. Type High altitude, rolling alpine with some rougher rim rock country at lower elevations. Tips are appreciated for good service. 3) The hunting pressure is nuts. Type High altitude, rolling alpine with some rougher rim rock country at lower elevations. Less than 2 weeks until Colorado sheep and goat results! Colorado Parks and Wildlife (CPW) will increase the cost of license fees, application fees and preference point fees in 2019. If you put in as a nonresident for Colorado mountain goat in 2017 you were 1 of 1,951 nonresidents going after 20 tags. So far, there has been a steady decline in population (despite what CPW counts claim) and a drastic increase in the difficulty of the hunt. A Colorado Mountain Goat Hunt is spectacular! I made the shot with very little legal shooting Based on 2020 applications, this unit is a bit overvalued in the draw. This has created difficult hunts for later dates. Trekking into the wilderness with packs on our backs enjoying the beautiful Colorado back country. This question depends on many different questions. Goats live in remote, rugged, yet absolutely beautiful country that most people will never get the opportunity to see. The drainage of harvests is included in the report, but coordinate information will no longer be available because of concerns about fair chase. Consequently, someone wanting to hunt mountain goats must have a number of Colorado Mt. The average harvest/kill time is 1.4 days and G7 has something like a 98% success rate. Scores. Advanced Mountain Hunting Seminar KC9 10-Oct-20. The hunting experience here is great, but you pay for that in the draw vs units like G12 and G13 which are typically 3-4x times easier to draw. Goat preference points in order to draw the tag. Our guides are the best when it comes to knowing where the goats live. This past year, as I was getting ready to submit my You cannot draw a Mountain Goat tag in Colorado until you have applied for at least four years. It has lower goat density than G12, but a much better hunting experience. The CPW does not have a good handle on the goats in this unit, where they are, how many there are, etc. Joined Feb 25, 2012 Messages 552 Location Rocky Mountains. yeager 10-Oct-20. Livin the Wildlife: Colorado Mountain Goats Doug Skinner August 26, 2019 Its a species that lives in a land of sheer cliffs and perpetual snows. KC9 10-Oct-20. 5-15% of the total trip cost is typical if you are happy with your guide and service. And I did get my billy. Colorados alpine tundra is home to the mighty mountain goat. The use of horses is limited due to the terrain. You can apply online starting in March on the CPWs website. Mountain goats are managed very carefully in Colorado. SAT, MAY 16. You must build three loyalty points (three years of applying) before you are considered eligible to draw. Credit Cards are accepted from corporate invoiced groups only. A couple more years of reduced tag numbers and there should be Type Historical harvest is concentrated but goats are spread throughout the area and available outside of the heavily trafficked areas. Most of the hunt is spent looking for billies from high elevation glassing points. The terrain here is a little more forgiving than G6 or G12, so I worry less about snow hindering a later season hunt. Share on email . Lots of variety in terms of access. Success Rate Wilderness sharply gives the benefit to those with scouting time and those that know the country. Success Rate Last couple years success rates have declined to 50-60% from 80-90% pre-2014, for non-guided hunters. Given the potential for great draw odds, this is my top pick for our clients in 2021. West of Buena Vista, this unit is south of the Collegiate Peaks Wilderness. When you are talking close to 30 tags in the unit at a time, hunting becomes a competitive sport. Cliff is a private pilot, certified wilderness first responder, and an official measurer for both Boone & Crockett and Pope & Young records programs. Our guided success rate here is 100% on trophy billies. 16-May-11 . Goat Yoga classes will start again in Spring of 2021! 50% deposit due at booking. Goat Yoga is the perfect way to start your morning. North America's Most Physical Mountain Hunt, Physical Fitness Preparation For Goat/Sheep Hunts, Mountain Goat Behavior and Hunting Strategy, Mountain Goat Sex Identification and Field Judging. After glassing the goats and identifying three mature nannies, we decided to move over to the adjacent For hunters wanting the pristine, no-one-in-sight goat hunt they have been dreaming about since they were 12 years-old its only an OK draw. Success Rate If you can get up in the rugged terrain, you can kill a mid-size goat. The one plus of this unit is the potential for older age class billies that have used remote areas in the unit to slip by previous hunters. A physical hunt. Furthermore, Colorado law requires that wildlife information that could allow individual private landowners to be identified must be withheld from open records requests. Here it is, our Colorado mountain goat unit thoughts! For Colorado hunters, April of every year is a time of excitement and anticipation over the big-game license drawing.Although many of Colorados big-game licenses are available over-the-counter, hunters must apply for and draw the more coveted licenses for species like bighorn sheep and mountain goat.. If you are a hunter in good physical shape, this hunt is undervalued in the draw. Great hides the first week of the 2nd hunt. Managers introduced only 55 to 60 mountain goats, but today thousands live in the mountains of Colorado. With Phil Mendoza & Nathan Kimball Last fall our good friend Phil Mendoza drew a coveted Colorado mountain goat tag. It all depends where the goats are. As a primer for all sheep/goat hunters on how the probabilities of the Colorado draw work for these species, I recommend you read our Understanding The Colorado Sheep, Goat and Moose Draw article. Now we are back at 5. Location Maroon Bells Wilderness and Surrounding Area I was lucky in the hunt too, in many more ways than one. The area is full of stunning terrain. In 1993, at the request of the International Order of Mountain Goats, the Colorado Wildlife Commission declared the mountain goat to be a native species in Colorado. Grant and Scott had deer tags of their own to fill and Kevin and I wanted a closer look at the goats that I had spotted. Apr 5, 2021 #2 CoHiCntry Senior Member. Success Rate Varies a lot on hunters mental and physical preparedness. t-roy 06-Oct-20. Mountain Goat hunting in Colorado is one of the most extreme adventures that you could go on. Regardless of the unit, being in the best shape of your life will help you enjoy the hunt and increase your chances of harvesting a world-class billy. Rocky Mountain Goat Hunting in Colorado GMU G12 - Maroon Bells Bounded on N by Colorado Highway 82; on E by Castle Creek; on S by the Gunnison-Pitkin County line, the Colorado River Headwaters-Gunnison River divide, US Forest Service 317 (Schofield Pass Road), and US Forest Service 314 (Crystal River Rd); and on the If I guide you on this hunt, be prepared for a backpack style hunt and the use of horses if scouting puts goats in the harder to reach areas. If you are interested in booking a mountain goat hunt with us, visit our sheep/goat hunt page. We guide several of these hunts through partnering outfitters, others units we guide through our special use permits held by Flat Tops Wilderness Guides. Location North of G2, South of Independence Pass My personal guiding here has been 100% harvest. Historically, my favorite unit to guide in. The nature of goat hunting can really concentrate hunters. Location Gore Range, North Side of Hwy 70 paul@thefort 10-Oct-20. Success Rate Varies a lot on hunters mental and physical toughness. https://trentswansonoutdoors.blogspot.com//colorado-mountain-goat.html Part of the increased applications is because it is closer to the Denver Metro Area vs. the other units. Its twice as easy to draw as any of the other units Ive discussed. The density of goats is higher than any other area I have guided in, but there are a few things you should know before applying here: 1) The non-hunting activity is intense. At 36 years old I am one of, if not the youngest Bighorn, Mountain Goat, Moose, Elk, and Deer pros in the state-but did not get to this point by accident. Quality Lots of opportunity for hunters ready for the terrain, hold out for an 8+ Billy. My immediate response was, Heck yeah! We were fortunate to harvest a goat on the first day, earning it after climbing two separate mountains with a combined elevation gain of over 8,000 feet. The hunting here is usually long glassing sessions from 44 accessible points followed by long stalks of varying difficulty. I saw those stats prior to applying, it's kind of what drew me to that unit. Getting the good billies takes scouting and game planning. I was lucky enough to draw a Colorado Mountain goat tag in 2015, and thats plenty enough to celebrate. KC9 10-Oct-20. West of Buena Vista, this unit is south of the Collegiate Peaks Wilderness. My personal guiding here has been 100% harvest. Wish everybody luck! There are some good honey holes in this unit that will hold nice goats. High in the mountains above timberline lives one of my favorite Colorado wildlife species, the mountain goat (Oreamnos americanus). If you are not in mountain hunting shape, you will likely need to add a packer. Just North of G2, G3 is similar but does not have as good of access. Based on your physical fitness, land designation of the unit you draw (wilderness or not), game populations and scouting most of our hunts can be done via horseback packin or backpacking (lightweight camps or day backpacking). Some areas are accessible while others are more of a challenge. Ease of Drawing 1 1 Success 67 67 Trophy Potential 0. You can expect a quintessential mountain hunting experience from this hunt. We have found goats in several pockets that dont have any history of goat harvests. One thing I did notice is that the statistics show almost all of the goats taken in that unit are pretty young. In 2018, the tag became harder to draw because tags were reduced from 6 to 4. If you cant meet that requirement, we can add a packer to your hunt in addition to the guide. Just North of G2, this new and improved G3 has a mix of wilderness and road access. This country can kill you and has killed hunters in recent history. You need to scout this unit or you can waste a lot of time in old pockets that no longer hold billies. When he invited us to join him and his hunting companion Nathan Kimball on the hunt it was an easy invite to accept! Draw For the average hunter, this hunt is overvalued in the draw. Treeline 10-Oct-20. Cash and money order are the only accepted payment for final payments received at the hunt location. Start Hunting Series, This article is one of many from our Goat Prep Series Here's the problem with mountain goats: they live in the mountains; the nastiest, roughest, and shittiest part of the, This article is one of many from our Goat Prep Series If you don't want to completely "nerd-out" on mountain goat information, skip down to the hunting strategy section. I was lucky enough to draw a Colorado Mountain goat tag in 2015, and thats plenty enough to celebrate. Draw For the average hunter this hunt has been marginally overvalued in the draw but with the new tags Im expecting it to be a good draw this year. I am on the board of directors for the Rocky Mountain Bighorn Society here in Colorado-and I work for Huntin' Fool in the off season as a magazine Content Contributor and a Professional hunting Advisor. Quality 8 and 9 Billies, Declining tag opportunity over past 3-5 years. Draw I think this is a decent value historically. It use to have more goats and was touted for years as Colorados top goat unit by several magazines. Well, in 2018 you became 1 of 11,054. Due to the limited number of goats in the state, there are strict quota limitations. This can lead to many awkward discussions on the trail and, I personally feel, it takes away from the experience of the hunt. SCI (Colorado Chapter) - Raffle Deadline March 14, 2021: Mountain Goat - Statewide Auction : Wild Sheep Foundation (RMBS) - Sold on Jan 14, 2021 for $29,000: Mountain Goat - Statewide RAFFLE: Rocky Mountain Bighorn Society - Raffle Deadline May 19, 2021: Elk - Statewide Auction #1: Rocky Mtn Elk Foundation: Elk - Statewide Auction #2: Sold at WHCE Hunt Expo Auction - Feb 13, 2021 Success Rate Great area to hunt goats. You will not be disappointed. Backpack hunters must be confident they can hike 3-6 miles in rugged terrain per day with 30lbs or more. Quality Lots of opportunity for hunters ready for the terrain, hold out for an 8+ Billy. DIY Mountain Goat Hunting | Pure Hunting, S.4 Ep.6 Thin Air Duo Description: Willi and Chris both drew a nearly once-in-a-lifetime Colorado archery mountain goat tags. He said all you need to do is request the sheep/goat hunt brochure from the state each January, send in your check with the paper application for $500 and, after two years, you should draw the tag in your third year. Grunt-N Goats are not too savvy, but they do move to rough country after sustained pressure. The area is full of stunning terrain. Draw Based on 2020, the unit drew about 50% easier than G2. I made the shot with very little legal shooting light remaining in the long, end of summer day. The area is high elevation and goats of any size are usually found in the basins you have to work to get into. Most of our hunt packages do not include cost of taxidermy, meat processing, shipping costs, travel to/from hunt area, tags/taxes/licenses, and other services not specifically described in the hunt contract. From: JC. This has created difficult hunts for later dates. There are nice goats in the unit, but most of them are only accessible via a backpack style hunt. What folks dont realize is the time it takes to actually get into goats here surpasses the time savings in a vehicle, by 10-fold. Online Event. Elevating the scale from location of harvest to drainage removes the possibility of disclosing private If you are looking for bighorn sheep unit info checkout our 2021 bighorn sheep guide, because this article is all about the beast the color of winter. A billy goat was seen and photographed on Niwot Ridge in 2006. 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Some of the units in Colorado will require overnight backpacking, horse packing into wilderness area and/or 44 access to stalking/glassing locations. Lower goat density but a much better hunting experience. Usually the draw odds here are 2x better than G2. First class is Saturday, April 24th at 10 am. We can help greatly, but it is close to impossible to harvest a nice billy here if you arent open to sleeping up high. Although I dont consider it a high density area, it is one of my favorite hunts to guide. KC9 10-Oct-20. All activities on public land are operated under a special use permit from the US Forest Service. Because of intense hunting pressure, billies are much easier to harvest during the first season but do not have near the hide they will in the second season. Cut off applications forever and youre looking at 550 years. Thread starter Foldem; Start date Apr 5, 2021; 1; 2; Next. This has led to some folks thinking its going to be easier than it actually is. The better access is on the historical G13 side and so are the majority of the goats. This unit has gone through the biggest changes of any of the units over the past five years. posted by Cliff Gray on March 2,2021 in Blog Posts. Location Gore Range, North Side of Hwy 70 Over 150 mountain goats in G7 and it's the smallest mountain goat unit in Colorado. N/A Ease of Terrain 25 25 Room to Breathe 100 100 Opportunity 21 21 Convenience 100 100 Ease of Effort 87 87 46. If you arent, this tag is way over-valued. Season runs Monday Oct. 5 through Oct 16. Wait, it gets worse. I cannot say enough about this hunt. Type Historical harvest is concentrated but goats are spread throughout the area and available outside of the heavily trafficked areas. I have found goats in several pockets that dont have any history of goat harvests. When you are talking close to 30 tags in the unit at a time, hunting can become a competitive sport. Do not apply for this tag is you are not going to be decent shape and ready for a backpack style hunt. The terrain here is a little more forgiving, so I worry slightly less about snow hindering the 2nd season hunt. He has years of experience hunting big game via remote backpacking and horse/mule packing. Goats are getting pushed further into the gnarliest of terrain in the Bells, which might be the most rugged in the Western States. This unit has gone through the biggest changes of any of the units over the past two years. Lots of terrain here is un-doable once it has a slick of snow on it. I have guided many hunts here with 100% success on mature billies. In the spring of 2020, I was totally surprised to receive a notification that I had been drawn for a goat tag the last season in unit G7. There are a few things you should know before applying here: 1) The non-hunting activity is intense. Email me directly at cliff@FTGuides.com with any questions. First-Time Hunter Seminar Bonded and Insured. It was 1997 when a fellow member of the Iowa SCI Chapter told me about his Colorado mountain goat hunt he had done as a do-it-yourself hunt the previous year. Rocky Mountain Goat Hunting in Colorado GMU G6 - Gore Range . TXCO 06-Oct-20. It is close to impossible if you are not in mountain hunting condition. Type Wilderness Hunt (Eagle Nest Wilderness), rough country Just got an email this morning that a tag was returned and I'm next in line for goat tag in Unit 16. Most hunters draw their tags after 10-15 years of applying. Especially when considering that not only is Phil a great guy, he's what we consider to be a Maven - a trusted expert who has knowledge based on an accumulation of experience in hunting KC9 10-Oct-20. My personal guiding here has been 100% harvest. Still a great area to hunt goats, but do not apply for this tag is you are not going to be in shape. It all depends where the goats are. Lots of terrain here is un-doable once it has a slick of snow on it. Bounded on N by the Colorado River; on E by Colorado Highway 9; on S by I-70; and on W by Colo 131. The hunting experience here is great, but you pay for that in the draw vs units like G12 and G13 which are typically 3-4x times easier to draw. Success Rate If you can get up in the rugged terrain, you can kill a mid-size goat. Draw In 2018, the tag became harder to draw because tags were reduced from 6 to 4. Liv2HntBigBullz 05-Oct-20. Draw For hunters just wanting to check-off a goat hunt and that are in decent shape, this hunt is one of your best draws. The, This article is one of many from our Goat Prep Series Resources: The best books on mountain goat behavior, with a good section on identifying billy vs nannies is A, This story was edited and published by Epic Outdoors in their Oct/Nov 2017 Issue. Averages harder to draw than G12. Once I factor in the potential for snow on the rugged goat habitat during 2nd season, I lean a bit towards the first season. Share: Share on facebook. Id speculate that most of the goats harvested going forward will be harvested within the old G13 boundaries. Based on 2020 applications, this unit is a bit overvalued in the draw. If your favorite spot isnt discussed, its because all the goats their died in an avalanche haha.. gotcha actually its because I dont have any valuable insight for that particular area.
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